I think since then J-Pop has moved to larger groups and a very generic sound, less focus on the actual music and more focus on the marketing. It seems like kpop is beating out jpop :( I think kpop copies jpop and American music but jpop seems all original. When I say weird, of course, I mean that you are about to embark on a musical journey that you will either adore or scratch your head at. For Western audiences, witnessing the gaggles of cute girls in groups of up to 50 people dominating the Asian pop scene can be bemusing or even alarming. KPop is only beating out JPop in terms of American recognizability. When I say weird, of course, I mean that you are about to embark on a musical journey that you will either adore or scratch your head at. I also like that singles are promoted much more in jpop than kpop. To be more specific, their music is more Dance-Pop, while American music is just Pop. Jpop for a start is so much harder to listen to. Kpop is inclusive. I always feel as if this is a subject that people often over look but I always wanted to hear what people thought about this. As has been stated already, Japan doesn't need to worry about being popular outside of its borders, whereas Kpop probably does to keep sales up. Jpop vs Kpop! 0 0. I’m an actual Korean person speaking here and I agree with most of what this article said. I've been doing research and read that due to korea's success, japan will try to spread their music as well, but I don't know if this is true. I love their concept of being super heroes. artists that also gain popularity. No, I'm fairly certain that kpop's relative popularity outside of its home country, especially English speaking countries, has everything to do with ease of access and the fact they more closely imitate Western style. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Whether it's visual kei, rnb, electropop, j-rock or anime op music, creativity and skill take centre-stage more than the overall physical presence of the performer. Manga, Anime and general Japanese culture has made Japan intrinsically cool. And of course, Koreans have made kpop a hell of a lot easier find and access online for international fans. what do you guys think? I've been listening to jpop since as long as I can remember and I still do. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, 4minute | Oh My Girl | Rainbow | Photocard Collecter, friendship w/ kpop over cpop&jpop is my new bff , Block B || Penomeco || 드림캐쳐 || ATEEZ || SKZ ||BOM || BP ||, ❌Don't Call Me☎️ Hey now we'll be ok ❤️. In kpop, the majority of popular artists and songs that become popular are idol groups or ballad/ost singers, however solo artists have been popular in the past and k-hiphop artists are gaining popularity in recent years. I used to be into Jpop but then the companies started scrubbing the videos from youtube. KPop wins (1) 33%. Neither kpop or jpop are better to me, both are my favorite genres of music. Most Japanese female idols wear a lot of frilly skirts, silk, ribbons and lace, much like a doll’s outfit. AKB48 is a money machine. Thanks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. For kpop you can easily find the music, you can (fairly) easily watch subbed content and find information. It's hard to be a Jpop fan though. The fact that I've never met anyone in the wild who actually listens to any Asian music besides myself (well, and a Chinese friend of mine) makes me think the "popularity" of kpop among American audiences is pretty overstated. They need to export so they don't care about copyright as long as their performers get attention. Their music market is small and cannot sustain itself domestically. In terms of Japanese music sales, the Korean Hallyu wave in Japan has receded dramatically. I like both. , what do u like about one genre and what do dislike. Both are equaly good (1) 33%. I agree that it would be kind of silly for a solo idol such as Nishino Kana or Amuro Namie to be break dancing while she's singing a ballad, there's no lack of performance/choreography focused groups in Jpop, especially with the popularity of the idol genre. I can't stand when people say that cpop copied kpop because it's not true. Years after the group broke up and the members went to separate solo projects, Supreme Mary Wilson released the tell-all book “Dreamgirl: My Life As A Supreme” where she spends many pages gleefully outing groupmate Diana Ross as a complete prima-donna cunthole. Momoiro Clover Z is pretty badass. Red Velvet (레드벨벳) Red Velvet is a 5 member K-pop group made by SM Entertainment. Promotions aren't really this barrage of information for two weeks right before a release. 35.0k members in the AdvertiseYourVideos community. I love both, but one industry clearly wants my money and attention and I'm happy to give it to them. It's a whole effort. Caveat: I love Babymetal. Japan is a huge market for music acts, and Korean acts make a lot more money in Japan than they do in South Korea. For visuals, there is more variety in different types of faces on members in the group. I’ve been into the J-Pop for a long time too, and isn’t really that weird, unless you’re looking into that particular niche of the genre. These two genres are both good and all these artists work really hard. Here in Australia, J-pop is a bigger deal than K-pop because Japan is generally considered a fascinating place with a really interesting culture. But I like korean food, makeup and fashion. If I get sick of something sweet and bubbly like SNSD or Twice, I can easily switch to Brave Girls or Ga-In. I adore Babymetal. So there you have it. SOME kpop songs have English lyrics, English titles and even English subtitles in captions on the music videos. The Supremes also weren’t short on that other common element of idol pop – bitchy in-fighting. Jpop is probably less appealing to Western audiences for the most part but I personally like it. East Asian girl bands these few recent years are a phenomenon to admire, whether you are a music lover or a business person. The Korean acts generally have a sound closer to what's popular in the US, whereas Japanese acts often do their own thing. If someone were to fully explore the Japanese music scene, it feels like there really is something for everyone to enjoy. Discussion in 'J-POP' started by thebadguy, Jul 20, 2020. I agree that K-pop is closer to whatever music happens to be popular in the US at the time while J-pop is more unique (which is why I prefer J-pop). Definitely, a group to keep an eye on! From what I have seen kpop has embraced the idea of sharing things online significantly more than jpop. it's easy to find kpop stuff and become a fan. Japan has a thriving idol scene with many idol groups. I can't stand when people say that cpop copied kpop because it's not true. I'd say it's still very much how it is, however, obviously Japan has since restricted a lot of YouTube videos with YT Red, which has been a big impact on international viewing. I do enjoy a lot of Japanese jazz and video game music though. K-Pop idols are more famous in Japan and Asia than other Wester Idols. It’s an ensemble that you’ll see even ordinary people wear on the streets of Harajuku, and it’s a regular look that only the Japanese can pull off. Expand upon your topic idea to help generate meaningful discussion. You can only be fans of the big artists or of artists from companies who want them to go worldwide. Even being a fan of Blackpink, who has a company who is famous for keeping idols basically quiet and in the basement, with barely a peep, I hear from the girls and about their days and see photos a lot thanks to Instagram and Vapp. J-pop has always been significantly less accessible than K-pop due to a variety of reasons, the biggest being the resistance to the Internet. I'm just going to say that for me, the reason why I prefer KPop and Jpop over American Pop is mostly because Asian Pop tends to have a greater electro influence - which I enjoy, since I have a largely electronic based music interest. In kpop, music videos, concerts, variety shows, etc. TLDR; in my opinion, having extremely limited access to jpop online is one of the major reasons why kpop is much more popular. I really like a few Jpop groups and I appreciate the theatrics of the groups that lean more towards concepts. There are also Broken by the Scream, BiSH, Ladybaby, Q'ulle, and many more. Kpop songs are pretty nice, but they usually sound not much different than what you'd expect in western pop, which is not necessarily a bad thing, of course. They do extremely well by themselves. This is only based on newer groups/artists. You know what you're going to get in other words. K-pop vs J-pop is one of them. And really, the reason Korean acts promote so much in Japan is because of the money, plain and simple. In addition, I would say that because in Korea there are only a few music shows (music bank, music core etc) and all the shows basically show the same stable of 15-20 groups/artists, it's much easier to keep up with which groups are popular, and when the groups you like are releasing. Jpop also has so much more sub genres, such a J-idol, which while being Jpop is it's own completely different thing to jpop, from what I understand. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. She always talks s**t about Jpop and makes fun of me for listening to it, even though I listen to Kpop too, and I'm the one that told her about Kpop in the first place. Why isn't Jpop as popular as kpop. This should start some meaningful conversations. Hi. Kpop in the past few years has really stepped up their game when just 10 years ago it often felt like a pale jpop imitation since that is partly where Korean companies drew their business model. ~ I hope you enjoy your time watching my video ♥ i do not own the content of the video. Arashi . Ok honestly I think this is a stupid question overall. The only thing is a lot of YouTube videos are either region locked or not the full videos, but I can easily find them on other sites. But I don't really consider them Jpop. It's just that, they're not reaching out to international fans that much compared to Kpop. And I really love Perfume. Who will you choose? I imagine Japanese music is more popular on Japanese related media sites anyway, such as NicoNico. Which is better and why? PassCode has the musical punch that Dreamcatcher lacks. http://reddit.com/r/jpop/comments/1qnlgm/jpop_vs_kpop/. And BP’s Coachella And IU is popular in Britain and somewhat Europe. Absolutely makes sense and you can't really ask for much more, but it does lack a certain accessible appeal for the international fans. Please edit the original post to add more details and jumpstart the conversation. I love the discussion and if you want please continue with your next topic! J-POP Girls’ Band vs K-POP Girls’ Band Jun 17, 2015. A lot of times I want to see kpop bsides get more attention and that's not as big a thing with jpop since many groups often release a few singles a year in addition to albums. Korean Pop or K-Pop. They are also the first K-Pop girl group to have 4 number one singles on Billboard’s World Digital Song Sales chart. Please don't respond to this troll thread. It's much more difficult to gain success and recognition in kpop if you do not plan on being in an idol group. There are some Korean acts that have had success in Japan, but right now that's mostly KARA and Girls Generation. Jpop is exclusive. Now, going on to J-pop itself, j-pop's biggest "flaw" against k-pop is that it does not heavily focus on the choreography for the songs. Even for official channels on Youtube, a lot of jpop groups are blocked in the US due to Youtube Red. I think kpop only seems better because its more popular in the US but only because Korea promotes the heck out of it, on the other hand japan has the second biggest music market so they don't need to advertise and expand to other countries. Perfume has a big following. Metal was my first love, and they seem to be so into it. It's just in the pop genre that Korea has an edge I feel. I don't feel too confident in that last statement though, as I haven't heard nearly as much jpop as I have kpop. I do like a lot of the variety in Japan a bit more although there are some Korean variety I love as well. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. The Supremes also weren’t short on that other common element of idol pop – bitchy in-fighting. K-pop:Because concepts vary per album and per group, K-pop idols play around … The preppy and girly uniforms are a staple in both K-pop and J-pop and it’s not going away any time soon. There's a trend on the internet to compare K-pop with the whole world. Nowadays i find kpop has become more sleek and polished, focus on fashion, vocals, dance, etc. Whether it's visual kei, rnb, electropop, j-rock or anime op music, creativity and skill take centre-stage more than the overall physical presence of the performer. With jpop, there is so much diversity, that it is much less likely you pick a random group/artist and like them. Not just the girls but the band as well. Then there's this group called Baby Metal who is pretty much dominating the world at this point. However, unlike in kpop, there are also many rock, r&b, jazz, electronic, indie, rap, etc. Me and my friend are debating. I've been meaning to get back into Japanese pop culture, including jdramas, but I haven't taken the time to really pull up my sleeves and get into researching sites. It's like they don't want people to be fans of their artists. It was fresh, unique, diverse, and catchy, the reasons I love K-Pop today. I only really know about jpop girl groups but one thing I will say is that the members have a lot more freedom than kpop groups do in general. Me and my friend are debating. Japan is really strict about sharing things. … My introduction to the international/Asian music scene was through J-Pop with Ayumi Hamasaki and Namie Amuro...this was back in like 2005, so the music was very different. Although there are some korean indie artists (r/koreanmusic) it is very difficult for these artists to gain success from mainstream korean media. K-Pop is encouraging kids to read. JPop wins (0) 0%. The big groups with hyper happy music can be fun, but it's not like I was ever able to listen to Morning Musume for 8hrs on repeat lol. I often have severe problems finding full music videos, videos in high quality or sometimes any videos at all of really popular jpop artists...whereas most of the very popular kpop artists who have been promoting in the past few years have very accessible complete videos in high quality if not in HD. Jpop has a more interesting sound to me and variety than kpop in general (much thanks to the overwhelming quantity of Japanese artists out there). There are some Korean acts that have had success in Japan, but right now that's mostly KARA and Girls Generation. As a result Kpop is more well recognized globally. Let’s get weird. Their lack of trying to crack down on people posting performances from music shows makes it seem like Kpop is more prevalent in Korea media, whereas it's nearly impossible to accidentally stumble upon Jpop these days. Just accessesing Jpop is a whole mission compared to kpop. Jpop fans can often be just fans of j-rap, j-jazz, or j-idols, in contrast to kpop fans which are usually just fans of kpop. At one point I felt like J-Pop was more forward thinking and K-Pop was still in the past but it feels like it's switched now. Heck, I have 50 gigs of performances from music shows from just 48G alone on my harddrive. She always talks s**t about Jpop and makes fun of me for listening to it, even though I listen to Kpop too, and I'm the one that told her about Kpop in the first place. So even though Kpop is "big," I don't think there's THAT big of a divide. Wow this discussion has honestly expanded my horizons on this topic. I became a kpop fan after being a jpop fan for awhile. Many people have heard about K … ~ jpop or kpop. In addition to music, K-Pop has grown into a popular subculture, resulting in widespread interest in the fashion and style of Korean idol groups and singers. They recently played shows with Red Hot Chili Peppers and Guns and Roses. So in the end kpop gets most of my listening and watching time as well. I like that jpop doesn't change itself for it's international fanbase. Besides YouTube isn't really that big a deal for jpop like it is with kpop fans these days. You still have idol turned actor members, scandals, mass buying, etc. I hope it is. Kpop is definitely more popular and fan friendly like another comment said. Jpop has also existed for a longer time, being huge since the 70's, in contrast to kpop which didn't really become a thing until the 90's. Buying albums is hard, getting any information is hard. JPop wins (0) 0%. No wonder even when jpop tries something more appealing to western audiences (like e-girls do sometimes), it ends up buried by kpop anyway. I recently did both on a trip to Japan. I'm a fan of both, but I know more about Kpop :) I liked Jpop first and found Kpop through that. In kpop, the majority of popular artists and songs that become popular are idol groups or ballad/ost singers, however solo artists have been popular in the past and k-hiphop artists are gaining popularity in recent years. I think jpop's "flaw" in that respect is that there is simply a much bigger variety of pop music in Japan than there is in Korea. I will … Jpop has some strong contenders. I like both. Source: reddit.com. are all made so that they are very accessible towards international fans. You can't deny the power of accessibility. They've done two songs for Sailor Moon but stuff for DBZ and even Pokemon. She says that Jpop is lame because its too boring and bland, and that they're too childish. PSY is pretty big, but more as a novelty. I am fed up with the kpop craze,I just don't see the point why they are obsessed with the idols?People don't want to accept the fact that their 'loves' won't meet them. There's still technically a dating ban but other than that the training and schedules and dieting are nowhere near as intense and harsh as kpop groups tend to be. Though I swear if they perform Flash live one more time...(as much as I love the song.). Has there been any point in history where Japanese music has been popular internationally? Jpop hands down! actually almost all new groups/artists suck (1) 33%. They're just a charming Idol group. I'm a sucker for that sort of thing. Whereas Japanese acts do come to perform in the US, and there have been three big recent movies (Cars 2, Wreck-it Ralph, The Wolverine) that featured Jpop in their soundtracks. J-Pop is, like another person mentioned, catered to Japan. Kpop Concerts (kpop concerts are nice and will sometimes have something cool in it but overall, they are really simple compared to Jpop concerts and they mostly stick to just lasers and lighting, Jpop concerts have a … … I see a lot of people say how hard it is to get into jpop but honestly it's not hard. Ayumi Hamasaki . It's tiring and almost not worth the effort. When Girls Generation won the YouTube music awards, the buzz was more "wait, who?" They put in a great show and their music is something that people of multiple music fandoms can get into. I also think that it is hard to get into jpop unless you start from anime, like most jpop fans I know, because of the Japanese problem. This is only based on newer groups/artists. Edit: keep in mind this discussion is from 3 years ago, but the content is still applicable today. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Edit: Well, Now that you've shared this information, this changes things and my perspective. It can be a struggle to just find a full music video. Honestly whenever the 48 group channels started getting blocked was when I stopped being as interested, it was just too time consuming to follow them. they're pretty old tho, idk about new jpop. All the kpop stars that have good income mainly get it either from cfs or Japanese tours. I will … K-Pop (Korean popular music) is a musical genre consisting of pop, dance, electropop, hiphop, rock, R&B, and electronic music originating in South Korea. Sadly this also makes it hard to find jpop.
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